DevPinoy.org
A Filipino Developers Community

>>> First two to make 3 wins! <<<

autumn season

i believe this quarter of the year had the greatest number of resignees in our company.  three probies have chosen to work in singapore, two of them will be joining barclays capital (jop joined them last year) including a true gem cruizer.  an ex-teammate joined misys (a local company which i believe offers better compensation, aha! tips, :p).  and just this morning, another one dropped a bomb to join another local company. 

there can be a number of causes why one would choose to resign a post, and for me, the way i see it, better compensation is always one of them.  but how do you communicate to your boss that you deserve a higher pay?  most people can't, it's never possible in our culture in my opinion.  and when you're lucky and the boss decided to give you a counter offer when you informed them that you are leaving, pride gets in the way.  so how would they know?  i have no idea.  life is complicated. 

and yes, i am updating my resume for a build master/developer position, wish me luck!


Posted 03-28-2007 2:02 AM by jokiz

Comments

dehran ph wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 12:17 PM

the way i see it no matter how passionate a developer can be, or how good a company can be in terms of opprunities to get invoilved and experienced the trends and latest, at the end of the day, its all about money.

it just bad for companies who invested much from recruitment to re-training etc when in a very short term they will just leave and go. worst if a project contract was already signed and everything was laid out and ready to kickoff.

I have been to several situations like these but i think its still good to wait and see and but do my homework first and finish.

I understand sometimes we encounter offers that are just too good to be declined hehe but I would just say, its your call, good luck!

keithrull wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 1:04 PM

I believe that you are one of thre brightest guys in the local scene right now and i see you as somebody who is really worth the big bucks(and the distinction of being a great developer) ;) especially knowing that you have so much knowledge about technology... and that knowledge would really benefit any company that you go to.

God Bless Build Master Jokiz :) and I wish you all the dinero that you greatly deserve to come flowing in your pockets ;) :P

hip2b2 wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 3:21 PM

sometimes it is not just about money. sometimes it is about "perceived" opportunities. junior people tend to see things in terms of cash and perks. that is the reason why google was so good at recruiting. they did not pay high salaries in the bay area scale. the just gave a really cool work environment and stock options. both are tools of "perceived" opportunity especially when google didn't even make a single cent.

Comgen wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 5:59 PM

Misys Wow... Big Bucks here specially for RPG Programmers. Misys developed the system we breath here at the bank. but 2 of my team mates here came from Misys. =P My company offered a higher pay =)

jokiz wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 6:41 PM

@rodel - thanks!

@keith - salamat sa bola

@william - i've done that in my junior years, choosing other valuable opportunities over salaries. this time, i wanted to save more for the future.  working abroad is very tempting

@comgen - ganun, ano bang company yan?  they might have been just pirated for the application

lamia wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 6:59 PM

In my very short experience in the business. The only thing I can say is that companies work for the sake of their own personal interest. Just like how countries would ally each other not for the benefit of the other, but for itself. So I don't see anything wrong with choosing the direction that is right for you and that you truly deserve.

Comgen wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 7:42 PM

Yaps your right sir Jokiz =)

dehran ph wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 7:47 PM

@jokiz: lols, maybe we're not getting any younger. i must agree, retire young is a long term goal.

@keithrull: i must agree, probobly in the philippines .net arena, he's a master. so i wonder why he's still hesitant to take the bug bucks outside, hmmm....

@hip2b2: i must disagree with that sir :). i think its the seniors that perceived things more in terms on salaries and perks. stock options are only good for startups to make developers stay in the company at certain time or make seniors (spend x years in company) stay longer. offering stock options for a new senior employee, i think is not so appealing.

@comgen: i just know very little about Misys but only i can rememver in their .Net Programmer post, you are required to have knowledge in PC troubleshooting and maintenance of vb6 aps. no offense :)

cruizer wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 8:02 PM

oo nung wala pa akong pamilya, wala akong pakialam sa sweldo :P

jokiz pasensya na at hindi mo na makukuha yun referral fee :( nevertheless salamat, cormant is one of the best companies i've worked for, kahit na sandali lang

jokiz wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 8:24 PM

@rodel- re: misys and vb6. hey, i just knew vba, pwede na ba un? hehehe

@cruizer - re: referral, oks lang yun bossing, salamat din sa ideas.

keithrull wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 9:56 PM

@jokiz: this is true bro. i think alot of guys lookup to you. just look at your feedburner subscriptions :P and your google hits. you are a smart guy and alot of the guys here can attest to that.. and heck! you can use us as your technical reference ;)

@hip2b2: i think its the potential of the company that got those people to stick with the company. just look at some of the startups today.. i know several people who stay with their startup employers because they believe that greener pasteurs are ahead of them if the company goes up to where they believ it should be. plus.. nowadays its the bills you pay that rules your decision.. although i know that in my current situation its my happiness with the work that i am doing thats keeping me with the same company(even thou i got several offers.. its the comfortability that made me stay).

Jon Limjap wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 10:35 PM

Langya kayo, ipipirata niyo ako tapos iiwan niyo ko?!

Joke! :p

Cruizer and I have together seen some of the worst possible scenarios an IT company can face, and if he says that Cormant is good, I would believe him -- we've had enough sh*t already.

Likewise, because I already have a family (not as big as cruizer's though :p ) going abroad is something that I'm actually trying to avoid.

And because my resume is already *too* colorful, I'm actually looking for a company to settle with for, oh, at least the next 2 years. :p

So let's see...

It's my last day in Azeus pala. See you guys on Monday.

jokiz wrote re: autumn season
on 03-27-2007 11:47 PM

@jon - di pa naman ako aalis, just want to explore the outside world lang to know what has changed, what is around.

tagal mo kasi, nainip na ako. see you after holy week then, grand vacation ako eh hehehe.

Comgen wrote re: autumn season
on 03-28-2007 12:00 AM

@dehran ph - Thats why im still with my company and not with misys hahahaha

jokiz wrote re: autumn season
on 04-10-2007 8:10 PM

@keith: 30 feedreaders?  malaki na yan sa iyo?


Copyright DevPinoy 2005-2008